RE: RE: RE: Cox family of kent by Helen - written 09/01/2012 12:46:17

Hi Peter


Thanks for your reply. Regarding the Wye children, there was also John b.1795 with the other four that you have found. The death notice was for Mary who died an infant in 1792 from a fever. Hopefully once you have received the CD's you can start to piece things together. As you say we cannot assume anything, but it is likely that these children belong to James and Mary Cox.


As KFHS has no surname index at the moment. All I can suggest is that you find all the births, marriages & deaths of Cox's in the Ashford area between two dates by using IGI, Mid Kent Marriages or Kent Archaeological Society, etc. It's a big undertaking but at least it will provide you with a picture as to each families whereabouts. Hopefully once you have done this you can trace the children marrying.  Then you might be able to decide whether Daniel Cox is the one being transported or whether he is happily settled in a Kentish village somewhere in the 1841 census. Just a note of warning, the Ashford census 1841 only survives in part but only really affects the actual town part.


If you need any further help please do not hesitate to contact me again on the forum or on the main email info@ashfordkentfhs.co.uk


Best wishes,
Helen


 


 



Peter Cox wrote (08/01/2012 05:25:32):




Hi Helen,


I've jumped on here to reply to you a couple of times and had trouble with the computer not sending the reply, so I am so sorry if you have been getting the replies because they don't appear to be going from this end.  Anyway, thank you for the information regarding James and Mary Cox.  I have tried to fit James Cox and Mary Hoplins in to my research a few times but the long gap between their marriage and the begining of their family has always caused me to doubt it not to neve committ to it.  Now, thanks to you that problem is solved.  It is OK to assume that the James and Mary COx at Wye is the same family as is boughton Aluph?  I am only new at this genealogy  but I know you can't easily assume anything.  In your email you mentioned that their were 5 children born in Wye.  I found: Mary, James, WIlliam and Daniel but could'n't find the fifth?  I found a death notice for a mary cox who died in 1792.  Am I right in guessing this was James and Mary's Daughter.  It would explain why they had two daughters named mary.


I have ordered CD 23 from KFHS (along with a number of others) and I am looking forward to exploring these to find out more information.  I already have CD 24 so I am keen now to go and look for more information reagarding these earlier children in there.


I have come across the name Daniel Cox a few times in relation to a conviction for house breaking.  He was convicted in Maidstone on 17 March 1828 and sentenced to life.  He was on the prison Hulk Retribution moored at Woolwich, received there on 15May 1828 and there is a record of Daniel cox being transported to Van Diemans Land aboard the Manilus on 16/07/1828. The original record for him aboard the prison Hulk said he was "Disposed of" via  transportation to NSW on the 10th of July.  Does this discrepency mean that he was sent to Van Diemans land instead of NSW or is it the wrong Daniel. Was he offically transferred to the Manilus for Transportation on the 10th but the ship didn't leave until the 16th?? Where do I have to look to find out this kind of information and where do I look to find out  if it is the same Daniel born into this particular family.  I have tried to find court records for maidstone without any luck at all.


 


I look forward to hearing from you



Helen wrote (06/01/2012 14:54:48):




Hi Peter


Thanks for your post.


It seems that James Cox and Mary Hopkins were married in 1791 in Boughton Aluph but started their family in the next village of Wye. There were five other children born from 1791 to 1800, which is when they must have moved back to Boughton Aluph. You can find this information on IGI.com and Mid Kent Marriages index. Certificates can only be ordered for dates after 1837 which is when BMD's started to be registered by the government. FreeBMD will help you locate post 1837 records.


Hope this helps a little. 

If you need any more info just let me know.


Regards, Helen



Peter Cox wrote (04/01/2012 16:45:35):



Hi, I am from Australia and trying to track down my english ancestors.  The focus of my research at the moment is arounnd Bounton Aluph.  I have purchased CD 24 from the Kent Family history society and found out some information.  I am researcing the family of James and Mary Cox who had 6 children: Mary, Frances, Thomas, Peter, Henry and Catharine between 1802 - 1815.  My particlular interest at present is trying to identify which James and Mary Cox are the parents and where they are from.  There is a James cox from Badlesmere who married a Mary Hopkins in 1791 in Boughton ALuph.  It seems unusual to me that it would be 11 years before they began their family so that raises doubts about whether it was them or not.  Is there anything other than what is on CD 24 that could help me identify who these people are.  HOw do I go about finding/ ordering birth and death certificates and would they be helpful in this process anyway?  I am only relatively new at this genealogy thing.















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