Hi

I've managed to have a look at your query.
Firstly I looked at several sources for John Cramp b.1790. As you found in the KAS transcripts John Knowlden Cramp is christened on 12th December 1790 with parents John and Mary. IGI has this as well, but KFHS transcriptions have John Haerlbin? Crain? which is queried by the transcriber.  Richard Cramp is likely to be his brother who was born in 1794 but unfortunately died in 1797. IGI backs this up.

For their parents marriage, I searched Mid Kent Marriages but could only find a John Cramp and a Mary Cook being married in Lydd in 1765 which seemed too early. I therefore searched for John's middle name of Knowlden on IGI which produced John Cramp marrying Mary Knowlden on 10th September 1787 in Fordwich, Kent which is right next to Canterbury. I verified this with KFHS parish transcripts for Fordwich. Both parties are listed as 'of this parish' and witnesses were William Cramp and Mary Beer.

Not knowing where this John came from, I carried out a wild search again on IGI and found a John Cramp being baptised in Canterbury St. Pauls in 1766 with parents William and Elizabeth nee Carter who were married in 1762 in Canterbury St. Pauls. All backed up by KFHS parish transcripts. This William could have been the witness for his son John's marriage to Mary Knowlden. William and Elizabeth had eight children baptised in Fordwich and Canterbury St. Pauls. One of their daughters, John Knowlden Cramp's, sister, went on to marry a Thomas Beer in Fordwich in 1784. She could be the Mary Beer who witnessed her brother's marriage in 1787 in Fordwich.

I hope this helps. Obviously you will need to check my information with various sources to see if it fits in with the rest of your research. In most cases IGI has been backed up by parish transcripts. Let me know if you want any more information or help.

Best wishes
Helen

cramp wrote (11/10/2011 19:33:01):



Ok great thanks